JulyFiler
08-14 07:23 PM
I agree completely with the OP. Education should be rewarded. People with higher education should be rewarded likewise. PhD > MS > B.XXX. If you have done masters and possess higher qualifications but had to apply in a lower EB category it is your problem or the job you applied for does not require higher qualifications. Either way, it is not USCIS prob.
I also agree with the fact the OP mentioned that MS folks and PhD folks who sweat out eventually end up losing more financially. This is the first time I am seeing some relief/reward for higher qualified people. I have seen people (have friends too) who came in 2000 straight on H1 and have been making big bucks since then and stuck in EB3. I have seen my friends port to EB2 and get GC. All this makes me feel like I have wasted 2-3 yrs in getting a masters. It is time we got rewarded. This does not mean I want others to be punished. I am saying people with higher qualifications need to be rewarded.
Chanakya has posted very balanced views. Good job man. Lot of folks are bitter and have misconstrued your arguments and jumped right in to attack without even thinking.
You are also right that very very rarely do you see a mature discussion in these forums. which is why I just keep away. I just laugh at the sillines that is often displayed here. People dont want to see what they dont want to see. Just few minutes back I saw a post where the OP claims to have entered the country in 1999, applied in 2004 and got his GC. He says he "has been waiting for 8.5 years". thats silly. he applied in 2004. so the wait is only 4.5 yrs. If that was the case I came to this country in 1999. I should have gotten the GC before his. should I crib about it now?
Btw, I am in EB2. I made a choice to do my masters expecting some benefits. What use is the degree if it doesnt benefit me? No one would be going for MS and PhD if they are all same.
Welcome reddots.. :)
I also agree with the fact the OP mentioned that MS folks and PhD folks who sweat out eventually end up losing more financially. This is the first time I am seeing some relief/reward for higher qualified people. I have seen people (have friends too) who came in 2000 straight on H1 and have been making big bucks since then and stuck in EB3. I have seen my friends port to EB2 and get GC. All this makes me feel like I have wasted 2-3 yrs in getting a masters. It is time we got rewarded. This does not mean I want others to be punished. I am saying people with higher qualifications need to be rewarded.
Chanakya has posted very balanced views. Good job man. Lot of folks are bitter and have misconstrued your arguments and jumped right in to attack without even thinking.
You are also right that very very rarely do you see a mature discussion in these forums. which is why I just keep away. I just laugh at the sillines that is often displayed here. People dont want to see what they dont want to see. Just few minutes back I saw a post where the OP claims to have entered the country in 1999, applied in 2004 and got his GC. He says he "has been waiting for 8.5 years". thats silly. he applied in 2004. so the wait is only 4.5 yrs. If that was the case I came to this country in 1999. I should have gotten the GC before his. should I crib about it now?
Btw, I am in EB2. I made a choice to do my masters expecting some benefits. What use is the degree if it doesnt benefit me? No one would be going for MS and PhD if they are all same.
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swamy
12-12 08:42 PM
I dont think it's a good idea. The fundraising thread demonstrates that we do have people who understand the stakes and are willing to do something about it. Ofcourse we need a lot more money but we should be able to persuade people to contribute voluntarily. I don't like exclusive clubs
swamy
11-06 06:34 AM
Theres an enforcement only bill that increases the h1 cap to 130000. Ofcourse enforcement doesnt include making sure the EB quota is used every year - not that enforcement.
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desi3933
01-28 04:50 PM
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desi3933,
Please refer [URL="http://www.laborimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/AILA-Memo-Seeking-Revokation-of-Neufeld-Memorandum.pdf"]AILA memo (http://www.laborimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/AILA-Memo-Seeking-Revokation-of-Neufeld-Memorandum.pdf) as they have already detailed the law points in it.
Did you even read my post and the pdf link. BTW, pdf link refers to Aug 21st, 2009 much before this memo came out. Even if memo is withdrawn, how that is going to change the points agreed by the court?
Here is the pdf link again
http://www.uscis.gov/err/D2%20-%20Temporary%20Worker%20in%20a%20Specialty%20Occup ation%20or%20Fashion%20Model%20%28H-1B%29/Decisions_Issued_in_2009/Aug212009_09D2101.pdf
I suggest that you go thru pdf links in my other posts for this topic. All these decisions refer to issues pertaining to H-1B working at the end-user client thru multiple layers. This memo does not make any difference that way. Like I said before, this memo just make the interpretation public knowledge.
Why these H-1B cases have been denied in last years and why these denials were not reversed by appeal court? These answers should enlighten you.
Just harping "illegal memo" does not change anything.
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desi3933,
Please refer [URL="http://www.laborimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/AILA-Memo-Seeking-Revokation-of-Neufeld-Memorandum.pdf"]AILA memo (http://www.laborimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/AILA-Memo-Seeking-Revokation-of-Neufeld-Memorandum.pdf) as they have already detailed the law points in it.
Did you even read my post and the pdf link. BTW, pdf link refers to Aug 21st, 2009 much before this memo came out. Even if memo is withdrawn, how that is going to change the points agreed by the court?
Here is the pdf link again
http://www.uscis.gov/err/D2%20-%20Temporary%20Worker%20in%20a%20Specialty%20Occup ation%20or%20Fashion%20Model%20%28H-1B%29/Decisions_Issued_in_2009/Aug212009_09D2101.pdf
I suggest that you go thru pdf links in my other posts for this topic. All these decisions refer to issues pertaining to H-1B working at the end-user client thru multiple layers. This memo does not make any difference that way. Like I said before, this memo just make the interpretation public knowledge.
Why these H-1B cases have been denied in last years and why these denials were not reversed by appeal court? These answers should enlighten you.
Just harping "illegal memo" does not change anything.
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They are in recess.. will HR5882 come up after lunch.. I m on west coast,. so i dont know what has already taken place.. can someone pl let us know here..thanks
eb3_nepa
03-12 10:33 PM
Thanks for the replies everyone.
In response to some responses, i am not "overly concerned" I was just wondering what their status was.
If the older core members who have received their GCs are indeed enjoying the fruits of their hard work, God bless them and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. My intent was never to start a hot debate. God knows we have tons of drama on the forums daily!! ;). (Soon the April VB will be released and more drama)
In response to some responses, i am not "overly concerned" I was just wondering what their status was.
If the older core members who have received their GCs are indeed enjoying the fruits of their hard work, God bless them and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. My intent was never to start a hot debate. God knows we have tons of drama on the forums daily!! ;). (Soon the April VB will be released and more drama)
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coopheal
01-09 10:16 PM
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DO a rally and I will be there with contributions, do something big, I am sure more like will join the cause. Not a free rider but at the same time don't like to be taken for a free ride!
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Make monthly monetary contribution for IV as a start.......
DO a rally and I will be there with contributions, do something big, I am sure more like will join the cause. Not a free rider but at the same time don't like to be taken for a free ride!
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Make monthly monetary contribution for IV as a start.......
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seahawks
07-18 10:15 AM
Signed.
Thank you. Please encourage everyone to sign too. H1 visas have a fee to retrain, educate students in math and science. It amounts to billions of dollars that is used for educating students here. I think we need to educate him and not put up with whatever he feels can say and untrue. Besides we have all contributed and have not strained any support system like social security, medicare.
Thank you. Please encourage everyone to sign too. H1 visas have a fee to retrain, educate students in math and science. It amounts to billions of dollars that is used for educating students here. I think we need to educate him and not put up with whatever he feels can say and untrue. Besides we have all contributed and have not strained any support system like social security, medicare.
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longq
02-11 06:12 PM
Right and wrong are relative.
You and I both agree about what is going on.
Interpretation of the law is also subjective.
What I am trying to tell you my friend, like I have tried to tell others like you before, is this. If IV hurts my interest, I would have to be an absolute moron to support it.
I really want to contribute more, and get active in my state chapter, but it is posts like these that make me pause and have second thoughts about it.kyl
IV is working hard to eliminate retro. Everyone is supporting their effort. I welcome everyone join togeter to fight retro. IV is not hurting or helping your or my interest. Large scale, IV is trying to figt retro.
We are simply talking what is law. How the flow of unused visas should be. It is nothing to do with fighting retro. I do not know wheathar it is IVs objective or not. Now, you are threatening that you will quit IV, if some one talks what is law. Are you asking us to shut up and help you first? Do you want us to ignore if some one hurts? Is it not your self-interst ?
You and I both agree about what is going on.
Interpretation of the law is also subjective.
What I am trying to tell you my friend, like I have tried to tell others like you before, is this. If IV hurts my interest, I would have to be an absolute moron to support it.
I really want to contribute more, and get active in my state chapter, but it is posts like these that make me pause and have second thoughts about it.kyl
IV is working hard to eliminate retro. Everyone is supporting their effort. I welcome everyone join togeter to fight retro. IV is not hurting or helping your or my interest. Large scale, IV is trying to figt retro.
We are simply talking what is law. How the flow of unused visas should be. It is nothing to do with fighting retro. I do not know wheathar it is IVs objective or not. Now, you are threatening that you will quit IV, if some one talks what is law. Are you asking us to shut up and help you first? Do you want us to ignore if some one hurts? Is it not your self-interst ?
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06-07 11:15 AM
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p1234
10-02 04:52 PM
My personal opinion is that other than few algorithm, electrical design, compiler design kind of jobs, most jobs in Computer applications can be done by an EB3/EB2 person. It's only how your company treats a particular job opening that you get designated as EB2/EB3. I could file in EB2 and lots of top-rankers from my class could only file in EB3. Does that make them any less capable than me?? Nope!
Correct. gctest is a very narrow-minded individual just like some of the phds are.
I have read many papers published by these phd students during my MS coursework. Many of them are an absolute trash!
They propose something which has bunch of shortcomings and then list them down as future work.
Others come along, look at the future work section and propose something else with one less shortcoming
and so on...
Every researcher says his/her proposal is better and runs biased set of tests to support the claims.
99% of such research papers would be used as toilet papers in India by the homeless!
Industry doesn't even look at most of this academic trash.
Most of these phds (not all) end up as lecturers making people yawn in the class.
The real productive ones that graduate from top notch universities, the cream of the crop that achieve breakthroughs don't come to this public forum and trash people around.
They are the EB1, no wonders gctest is clubbed as EB2, is he any better than any of us?
Correct. gctest is a very narrow-minded individual just like some of the phds are.
I have read many papers published by these phd students during my MS coursework. Many of them are an absolute trash!
They propose something which has bunch of shortcomings and then list them down as future work.
Others come along, look at the future work section and propose something else with one less shortcoming
and so on...
Every researcher says his/her proposal is better and runs biased set of tests to support the claims.
99% of such research papers would be used as toilet papers in India by the homeless!
Industry doesn't even look at most of this academic trash.
Most of these phds (not all) end up as lecturers making people yawn in the class.
The real productive ones that graduate from top notch universities, the cream of the crop that achieve breakthroughs don't come to this public forum and trash people around.
They are the EB1, no wonders gctest is clubbed as EB2, is he any better than any of us?
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logiclife
03-08 10:49 AM
This is in reference to a thread about feeling depressed by retrogression or labor backlogs to stuck FBI namechecks or whatever it is that depresses you. Not criticizing anyone in particular so dont aim for me.
Yes, and a lot of people know that there are highly skilled people who are depressed and that takes a toll on employee productivity.
After all, if 90% of your time is spent on thinking about BECs and visa bulletins, imagine if that time was spent on doing the job they've hired you for.
Some employers(like Microsoft) realize this and want to do something about it. Its not just about keeping the best and brightest here in USA. Its also about keeping the morale and productivity up.
As to how to deal with this...try this.
Call your local congressman's office(Find out info about that from House.gov, with your zipcode). Get an appointment with congressman. There is an Easter recess coming up when they would be back from DC.
Then talk to him about all issues you have. Take all the material you need from the "Volunteer" menu item of this website.
Doing something about the problem is the best therapy there is. I am not saying this because I want to coax you into meeting your congressman. No. That's not the objective. But I think action is the best remedy for this problem. And there is actionable stuff to do about this. If you are suffering from terminal cancer, then you really cant do anything about that. This is not such a problem. This is a problem for which the solution is out there.
Somehow, after landing in this country, people lose the appetite for risk and adventure. Before they are in here, they would move mountains to score an H1 or an F1. After coming here, they hunker down, heads-under-the-desk kind of approach. What I am talking about is nearly 200 people right now, who have read this post, but havent logged in. They wouldnt log in. They wouldnt give their real email address if they sign up. They would never contribute. WHY? Because they are afraid. That they will be deported. For no reason. Everything we do is legal, including raising funds and spending it on lobbying. But they are afraid. They are also afraid that by talking to congressmen, they will make them mad and the congressman will pick up the phone, call USCIS and then get their 140 cancelled. Yes. People create their own fastasies and become afraid of them..
Yesterday, nearly 2000 Irish illegals went to capitol hill (http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/frontpage/2007/0308/1173121325488.html)and talked to various lawmakers to lobby for CIR and legalization. They were illegals. Yet, the somehow managed to walk into the building where laws of this country are made, talk to people who make the laws that they have broken, go thru Capitol Hill security check, and look into the eye of the lawmaker and talk to them.
However, our community, this is how they behave. Forget about talking to congressman, or contributing money. When they call the core group with a question, they block the caller id can call. Dont disclose their name too. Ask a questions and then quickely hang up. Some of them want to contribute with cash because they are not willing to believe us that we are doing everything legal here and its their right to lobbying and petition the Government for problems.
After paying taxes, after following all immigration laws, after getting all the education in the world to become "Highly skilled", the highly skilled cant bring themselves to stand-up with a straight spine, thump their desk and talk to their lawmaker.
So at the end of the day, if we are depressed that legals dont get attention, then you know where to look for blame : the highly skilled who are highly educated and too afraid because their education and skills make them think too much and analyze too much, and they are afraid all the time.
Yes, and a lot of people know that there are highly skilled people who are depressed and that takes a toll on employee productivity.
After all, if 90% of your time is spent on thinking about BECs and visa bulletins, imagine if that time was spent on doing the job they've hired you for.
Some employers(like Microsoft) realize this and want to do something about it. Its not just about keeping the best and brightest here in USA. Its also about keeping the morale and productivity up.
As to how to deal with this...try this.
Call your local congressman's office(Find out info about that from House.gov, with your zipcode). Get an appointment with congressman. There is an Easter recess coming up when they would be back from DC.
Then talk to him about all issues you have. Take all the material you need from the "Volunteer" menu item of this website.
Doing something about the problem is the best therapy there is. I am not saying this because I want to coax you into meeting your congressman. No. That's not the objective. But I think action is the best remedy for this problem. And there is actionable stuff to do about this. If you are suffering from terminal cancer, then you really cant do anything about that. This is not such a problem. This is a problem for which the solution is out there.
Somehow, after landing in this country, people lose the appetite for risk and adventure. Before they are in here, they would move mountains to score an H1 or an F1. After coming here, they hunker down, heads-under-the-desk kind of approach. What I am talking about is nearly 200 people right now, who have read this post, but havent logged in. They wouldnt log in. They wouldnt give their real email address if they sign up. They would never contribute. WHY? Because they are afraid. That they will be deported. For no reason. Everything we do is legal, including raising funds and spending it on lobbying. But they are afraid. They are also afraid that by talking to congressmen, they will make them mad and the congressman will pick up the phone, call USCIS and then get their 140 cancelled. Yes. People create their own fastasies and become afraid of them..
Yesterday, nearly 2000 Irish illegals went to capitol hill (http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/frontpage/2007/0308/1173121325488.html)and talked to various lawmakers to lobby for CIR and legalization. They were illegals. Yet, the somehow managed to walk into the building where laws of this country are made, talk to people who make the laws that they have broken, go thru Capitol Hill security check, and look into the eye of the lawmaker and talk to them.
However, our community, this is how they behave. Forget about talking to congressman, or contributing money. When they call the core group with a question, they block the caller id can call. Dont disclose their name too. Ask a questions and then quickely hang up. Some of them want to contribute with cash because they are not willing to believe us that we are doing everything legal here and its their right to lobbying and petition the Government for problems.
After paying taxes, after following all immigration laws, after getting all the education in the world to become "Highly skilled", the highly skilled cant bring themselves to stand-up with a straight spine, thump their desk and talk to their lawmaker.
So at the end of the day, if we are depressed that legals dont get attention, then you know where to look for blame : the highly skilled who are highly educated and too afraid because their education and skills make them think too much and analyze too much, and they are afraid all the time.
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GCOP
08-12 01:26 PM
http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/
Once the Break is Over in 2nd week of September, We all should call members of congress , as many as possible, to get their Support for Visa Recapture Bill. If that bill passes, it will help all the EB categories.
Once the Break is Over in 2nd week of September, We all should call members of congress , as many as possible, to get their Support for Visa Recapture Bill. If that bill passes, it will help all the EB categories.
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kvranand
04-28 01:03 PM
kbsyed61,
Same thing is happening to my wife's RFE response too. We have submitted the response to her RFE (Birth certificate Affidavit) on 04/24. I have received an e-mail on the very same day from USCIS that thay have received the response and the case process resumed. I saw soft LUD's on 04/27, 04/28. I guess it will stop after couple of more soft LUD's as our PD's are not current. I assume we are okay as long as we do not get more RFE's on the same issue.:)
Same thing is happening to my wife's RFE response too. We have submitted the response to her RFE (Birth certificate Affidavit) on 04/24. I have received an e-mail on the very same day from USCIS that thay have received the response and the case process resumed. I saw soft LUD's on 04/27, 04/28. I guess it will stop after couple of more soft LUD's as our PD's are not current. I assume we are okay as long as we do not get more RFE's on the same issue.:)
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Macaca
12-09 08:11 AM
GcSoon-Ihope is from France. I thought that retrogression is mainly for India with some effects on China, Philipines and Mexico.
Please explain why bulletins are applicable to you. Thanks.
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Please explain why bulletins are applicable to you. Thanks.
Merry Christmas!
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12-12 11:09 AM
I had sent mine a while back. This is the least we can do as individuals.
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Humhongekamyab
07-02 03:00 PM
I am not contradicting you but just guaging the effect on employers. I aggree that if complaints keep pouring in, the equation changes. But as of now, I see only a few employers on that website and they have just been barred for few years
Sorry for jumping the gun; it sounded like a contradiction. My bad.
If you look at the ICE's public releases you will see they start investigating a case months before they announce their conclusions. I know in some cases the employers will be able to get away with small fines but we should not let this stop us.
Sorry for jumping the gun; it sounded like a contradiction. My bad.
If you look at the ICE's public releases you will see they start investigating a case months before they announce their conclusions. I know in some cases the employers will be able to get away with small fines but we should not let this stop us.
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permfiling
10-22 11:45 PM
There is a weekly conf call with attorney Prashanthi on thursday 9 pm EST. In one of the calls I had this question and the answer is that once you use AC21, the most recent company were you are working and where your GC got approved will be your sponsor so u have to stay with that company for 6 months ( the time duration is debated in other threads)
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04-18 08:13 PM
Congrats man...and thanks for sharing the details.
This helps a lot of ppl.
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NKR
06-12 10:51 AM
I agree.. you should be suing the other party in front of you for injuries since they were the ones who stopped and as the person said - offense is the best defense .
If I remember correctly the first car in front of you had already collided with the car number 2 and hence all the accidents. I don't know how they can put you at fault . So let the lawyers handle it and go all the way .
Best of luck.
I sort of disagree. In accidents like this, most often the person who will be ticketed will be the one driving behind, the reason being that in the eyes of the law the person driving behind should maintain safe distance from the vehicle in front of him even accounting for the fact the guy at front might stop suddenly. This is a lesson for people tail-gaiting too close�.
If I remember correctly the first car in front of you had already collided with the car number 2 and hence all the accidents. I don't know how they can put you at fault . So let the lawyers handle it and go all the way .
Best of luck.
I sort of disagree. In accidents like this, most often the person who will be ticketed will be the one driving behind, the reason being that in the eyes of the law the person driving behind should maintain safe distance from the vehicle in front of him even accounting for the fact the guy at front might stop suddenly. This is a lesson for people tail-gaiting too close�.
anai
02-14 10:09 AM
If black hats were around during the Indian independence movement, here's how it would have been:
In 1930's
Black hat: "What the hell, Gandhi! What good did salt satyagraha do? Where are the results? What did you achieve in the last 15 years? Change the leadership."
In 1940's:
Black hat: "Yeah. I continue to do nothing. But you suck."
In 1942:
Black hat: "Quit India movement! What a stupid waste of time. Gandhi, you should do a cultural show and raise some money."
Ok. Ideas seem to be always welcome at IV. But crassly worded trashing of volunteer leaders rankles a lot of us.
I won't be reading that silly sounding de bono hat book you suggest. But I might go to a cultural show by that other Bono and help him raise some money.
So is this how you brainstorm ideas at work?
Ideas are just as important as contributions.Your design team at work dont have to write the code as well. If its a bad idea then shoot it down,lets not ask everyone who comes up with an idea to implement it as well. Providing ideas is much better than sitting out there in blissful ignorance not knowing anything about retrogression or IV.
You may wanna read "Six thinking hats" by Edward de bono.He talks about having critical thinking hat(black hat) during brainstorming.Lets have some people with black hats here.
btw I thought anand26 was banned from this forum. I am not too far away from being banned as well. I got a post deleted by the admin already without any notice.
Forgive me for wearing the black hat in recent times and yes I have signed up for recurring contributions.
In 1930's
Black hat: "What the hell, Gandhi! What good did salt satyagraha do? Where are the results? What did you achieve in the last 15 years? Change the leadership."
In 1940's:
Black hat: "Yeah. I continue to do nothing. But you suck."
In 1942:
Black hat: "Quit India movement! What a stupid waste of time. Gandhi, you should do a cultural show and raise some money."
Ok. Ideas seem to be always welcome at IV. But crassly worded trashing of volunteer leaders rankles a lot of us.
I won't be reading that silly sounding de bono hat book you suggest. But I might go to a cultural show by that other Bono and help him raise some money.
So is this how you brainstorm ideas at work?
Ideas are just as important as contributions.Your design team at work dont have to write the code as well. If its a bad idea then shoot it down,lets not ask everyone who comes up with an idea to implement it as well. Providing ideas is much better than sitting out there in blissful ignorance not knowing anything about retrogression or IV.
You may wanna read "Six thinking hats" by Edward de bono.He talks about having critical thinking hat(black hat) during brainstorming.Lets have some people with black hats here.
btw I thought anand26 was banned from this forum. I am not too far away from being banned as well. I got a post deleted by the admin already without any notice.
Forgive me for wearing the black hat in recent times and yes I have signed up for recurring contributions.
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