
sobers
02-22 11:16 AM
Thanks Guys! Actually it is I who should be thanking you for all the great work and leadership you are showing:-)
I'm working on framing a letter to Karnik. In the meanwhile, here is what his email should be:
kkarnik@nasscom.in
They can also be contacted via
http://www.nasscom.org/contactus.asp
Their advocacy of H1B visas, particulary at this time, will harm more than help us...
I'm working on framing a letter to Karnik. In the meanwhile, here is what his email should be:
kkarnik@nasscom.in
They can also be contacted via
http://www.nasscom.org/contactus.asp
Their advocacy of H1B visas, particulary at this time, will harm more than help us...
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gunsnkars
11-02 01:18 PM
Couldn't disagree more with kaisersose or guns. GC system as it exists is rubbish and ugly in many ways- but as bad as it is that's what's legal and in place now so we have to go thru that and if possible, make it better along the way appealing to the saner elements of the society. Brain drain is tricky - you guys are honest enough to admit to not having it so theres clearly no drain there but other programmers will disagree. Some history lesson's also in order - will do it later. But that's why america needs me - i'm an annoying reminder to its core value(related to immigration) when a section forgets it or finds it inconvenient or abhorrent- and if i were to shed some modesty-and i'm going to-, i'd grandly say i'm here to remind some countrymen about what it means to quintessentially be an American
Mr.Swamy..First of all please read my post I meant 80% of the people which might not include Einstein's like u..Oh!!Wait a minute if you are Einstein y r u here in the first place!!U can be anywhere! And if you are that good of a programmer ur company will do anything to keep you..No immigration issues there...what are you crying about..Getting a GC and switching employers for more money!!Way to go buddy...I am with u on that!!..Everyone has their own hidden agenda and I am willing to accept it...
Mr.Swamy..First of all please read my post I meant 80% of the people which might not include Einstein's like u..Oh!!Wait a minute if you are Einstein y r u here in the first place!!U can be anywhere! And if you are that good of a programmer ur company will do anything to keep you..No immigration issues there...what are you crying about..Getting a GC and switching employers for more money!!Way to go buddy...I am with u on that!!..Everyone has their own hidden agenda and I am willing to accept it...

sobers
02-22 01:34 PM
indian outsourcers have not intrerest in GC- why should they? After GC they lose their stranglehold on the employees...all they want is more H1Bs...
And on this issue too (h1B), they may actually end up hurting themselves, given the current climate in the US. Its too bad (and really unfair) that our issues are usually linked with the H1B issue...:(
And on this issue too (h1B), they may actually end up hurting themselves, given the current climate in the US. Its too bad (and really unfair) that our issues are usually linked with the H1B issue...:(
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Rajeev
01-31 04:47 PM
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eb3_nepa
02-05 04:22 PM
can the H4 not apply for a new H1B? Is H4 barred from applying for H1B? If not, I don't see where the prob lies. plus how will this solve the retrogression issue?
Not all professions can apply for H1Bs. You need to have specific skills that the US does NOT have. Someone on here had once posted that his wife could not work as a teacher although the school was ready to offer her a job, coz there is no H1B category for teachers. The H1B visa cannot help spouses in all professions. Hence my suggestion.
About how this will solve retrogression, IT WONT. My point is instead of trying to bring this retrogression beast down, maybe we should look at alternatives to work around it.
Not all professions can apply for H1Bs. You need to have specific skills that the US does NOT have. Someone on here had once posted that his wife could not work as a teacher although the school was ready to offer her a job, coz there is no H1B category for teachers. The H1B visa cannot help spouses in all professions. Hence my suggestion.
About how this will solve retrogression, IT WONT. My point is instead of trying to bring this retrogression beast down, maybe we should look at alternatives to work around it.
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07-14 06:50 PM
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getgreensoon1
04-19 09:27 PM
Your comment is proof that even the best education money can buy does not make up for being short on common sense, decency and respect. Perhaps you should attempt another Masters, and shove it where the sun never shines. It's stunning, some of the "educated" prima donnas who make up this community.
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kubmilegaGC
09-17 01:32 PM
kubmilegaGC - Heartiest congratulations! Go out and enjoy the freedom!!! You deserve it.
@Cali - I wish we could have got it together - really! I know the frustration...But may be few more days and you will be through as well. lets keep the hope. You have been great although we got e-introduced only couple of weeks back...
anyone who is in the same boat - write on the forums - help each other and provide any nugget that could change the game...I do believe I got tremendous help from this forum and the morale support that was needed just to bear through each day. It helped me with my emotions and provided guidance and some comparisons.
It is easier said than done - but hang in there!
@Cali - I wish we could have got it together - really! I know the frustration...But may be few more days and you will be through as well. lets keep the hope. You have been great although we got e-introduced only couple of weeks back...
anyone who is in the same boat - write on the forums - help each other and provide any nugget that could change the game...I do believe I got tremendous help from this forum and the morale support that was needed just to bear through each day. It helped me with my emotions and provided guidance and some comparisons.
It is easier said than done - but hang in there!
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nandakumar
01-31 09:41 AM
just voted, currently, the questions are 16 & 24 in the most popular tab.
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snram4
01-21 01:08 PM
Anti immigration group targets all of the immigration. You can see numbersusa website. There are 2 reasons for the hate towards H1b and L1 program. Fraud and abuse is more in H1b. 20% was found by USCIS. Many fear it could be more. Mainly Indian bodyshopping and consulting companies are main reason. Another reason is many fear that H1b and L1 program is main reason outsourcing. Many big companies laid off US workers and did outsourcing to cut cost and they were asked to give Knowledge transfer to the onsite resources (those who are H1b or L1). Number of jobs in High skilled are very less (may be 2%) compared to low skilled in US. So they think 65k is more in percentage terms. US congress expects that H1b should be used only when no US Workers available. That is the reason there is no support at all at congress to increase H1b Cap. When they put a H1b restriction for TARP companies it was passed uniamously. So if we need EB reform just we need to disassociate or take neutral stand on H1b. They cannot remove H1b as it was with WTO.
I always wonder why give GC to 50k people regardless of their education experience and harass the 65K master degree/highly skilled tech worker ? All anti immigration group target H1B but rarely I see any opposition to GC lottery. It seems to me that due to media ( lou was one big guy ) has painted the H1B as the biggest enemy of job loss which is not true.
I always wonder why give GC to 50k people regardless of their education experience and harass the 65K master degree/highly skilled tech worker ? All anti immigration group target H1B but rarely I see any opposition to GC lottery. It seems to me that due to media ( lou was one big guy ) has painted the H1B as the biggest enemy of job loss which is not true.
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kumsoft
08-13 07:43 PM
Let everyone get their greencard. Dont fight among us, thats what anti-immigrants community wants.
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viva
11-15 03:23 PM
I do not mean to be negative, but this immigration debacle does not seem to end. How long do we have to freaking endure this nightmare? IV has been trying for months now...When do you think we will have immigration relief? Are we just going to end up being like thirsty deers in a desert chasing a mirage in search for water?
Are there any astrologers in the forum? Does any astrologer see the retrogression ending soon?
Are there any astrologers in the forum? Does any astrologer see the retrogression ending soon?
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misanthrope
10-03 11:48 AM
Yes you called sleazy consultants..check your stmnt.
Ok, clearly you did not read what I wrote or you did not understand it. Here is what I wrote..
"Well, I don't think gctest is against EB3. He is against consultants from sleazy bodyshopping companies, which is right.". Some one left me a red saying "not all consultants from sleazy bodyshopping companies are incapable." I agree and I never said that. If I came across that way then I apologize.
Everybody is trying to survive in this world ..diff people react differently to same situation..lying on resume/achievements is not illegal(reason y no body is prosecuted because of this fact..they are simply denied that benefit) however its unethical ..but iam not here to preach ethics.
VERY valid point. But my question is, do you support it?
A fictional scenario to check whether you are ready to take advantage of a loop hole if its in your favour.( A nice quote on this -Everybody likes discrimination when its in their favour and they dont raise their voice then)
Yes, nice quote and very true too. But again, that is not the argument here.
My point to say all companies lie/manipulate things to certain extent..desi consultants atleast dont deprive lives like other BIG companies where shareholders are kept in dark until they realize that company is no more worth anything.
Comparing one wrong doing with another does not justify as an argument. It is actually a logical fallacy. In other words, 2 wrongs do not make a right. Try doing that in the court of law.
Iam not supporting any malpractises are anything anyways this is not a criminal thing its just immoral ..
Malpractices are criminal (if law is violated) but a corporation cannot be tried criminally because it cannot go to jail.:)
You may have noted that I did not bring up morality even though I wanted to because everyone has a different measuring stick for it.
however if theres a loop hole and people want to chance it its upto them. They will be appropriately denied if they are caught, However its not like they are killing anybody.
I totally agree with that. Also, I don't think they will be denied because they did not do anything wrong. System provides them with an option for doing so.
Finally what do you think when even govt is planning to make illegals legals ..its respecting peoples wishes against legal things(ofcourse they get benifitted)Humanity/compassion is number one..rules are for our well being ..they are not hard and fast.
That's a perspective and again 2 wrongs cannot make one right.
Check for your reputation here i think it says some thing.
Yes. It is stupidity by consensus.
Ok, clearly you did not read what I wrote or you did not understand it. Here is what I wrote..
"Well, I don't think gctest is against EB3. He is against consultants from sleazy bodyshopping companies, which is right.". Some one left me a red saying "not all consultants from sleazy bodyshopping companies are incapable." I agree and I never said that. If I came across that way then I apologize.
Everybody is trying to survive in this world ..diff people react differently to same situation..lying on resume/achievements is not illegal(reason y no body is prosecuted because of this fact..they are simply denied that benefit) however its unethical ..but iam not here to preach ethics.
VERY valid point. But my question is, do you support it?
A fictional scenario to check whether you are ready to take advantage of a loop hole if its in your favour.( A nice quote on this -Everybody likes discrimination when its in their favour and they dont raise their voice then)
Yes, nice quote and very true too. But again, that is not the argument here.
My point to say all companies lie/manipulate things to certain extent..desi consultants atleast dont deprive lives like other BIG companies where shareholders are kept in dark until they realize that company is no more worth anything.
Comparing one wrong doing with another does not justify as an argument. It is actually a logical fallacy. In other words, 2 wrongs do not make a right. Try doing that in the court of law.
Iam not supporting any malpractises are anything anyways this is not a criminal thing its just immoral ..
Malpractices are criminal (if law is violated) but a corporation cannot be tried criminally because it cannot go to jail.:)
You may have noted that I did not bring up morality even though I wanted to because everyone has a different measuring stick for it.
however if theres a loop hole and people want to chance it its upto them. They will be appropriately denied if they are caught, However its not like they are killing anybody.
I totally agree with that. Also, I don't think they will be denied because they did not do anything wrong. System provides them with an option for doing so.
Finally what do you think when even govt is planning to make illegals legals ..its respecting peoples wishes against legal things(ofcourse they get benifitted)Humanity/compassion is number one..rules are for our well being ..they are not hard and fast.
That's a perspective and again 2 wrongs cannot make one right.
Check for your reputation here i think it says some thing.
Yes. It is stupidity by consensus.
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lost_in_gc_land
01-31 04:36 AM
Hello I got a yellow form 221(g) during my interview. Got my passport and approval back during the interview.
Are other people in PIMS getting this yellow form/ 221(g) stating that "when administrative processing is completed in your case we will contact you"?
This will allow me to decide if I am stuck in PIMS or something else.
Are other people in PIMS getting this yellow form/ 221(g) stating that "when administrative processing is completed in your case we will contact you"?
This will allow me to decide if I am stuck in PIMS or something else.
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desi3933
08-22 01:47 PM
Here's an anecdote -
This was back in the late 80s, when I was growing up - in Bangalore.
India had just lost the Finals of a well fought [field] hockey match to Pakistan. We were all very disappointed by the loss, but it saddened me further to see a victory procession with waving Pakistani flags in the Muslim parts of the City.
Ofcourse, India is a secular country and more so the United States.. and you can cheer whoever you please..
But, If you chose to become a US Citizen, and US were in a battle with your country of Origin (let's narrow it down to Sports, to keep it less complicated), which country would you side? If I chose to side with my country of origin, it would make me a hypocrite, wouldn't it ?
>> which country would you side?
Without a doubt, USA as I am a US citizen and USA is my country.
This was back in the late 80s, when I was growing up - in Bangalore.
India had just lost the Finals of a well fought [field] hockey match to Pakistan. We were all very disappointed by the loss, but it saddened me further to see a victory procession with waving Pakistani flags in the Muslim parts of the City.
Ofcourse, India is a secular country and more so the United States.. and you can cheer whoever you please..
But, If you chose to become a US Citizen, and US were in a battle with your country of Origin (let's narrow it down to Sports, to keep it less complicated), which country would you side? If I chose to side with my country of origin, it would make me a hypocrite, wouldn't it ?
>> which country would you side?
Without a doubt, USA as I am a US citizen and USA is my country.
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JazzByTheBay
12-12 10:16 PM
Excuse my cynicism, but that hasn't quite worked out with the crowd in question (so far... ), has it? :)
Context: the highlighted part in your quote...
jazz
We already have chapters as the first and foremost source of valuable information. Once someone becomes involved and committed, they will signup for monthly contributions themselves. If we have enough of that to guarantee a decent source of recurring income like 20 40 k or whatevr, I dont see the need to deprive some depressed soul surfing the net looking for some reassuring information from having to goto bed in peace.
Context: the highlighted part in your quote...
jazz
We already have chapters as the first and foremost source of valuable information. Once someone becomes involved and committed, they will signup for monthly contributions themselves. If we have enough of that to guarantee a decent source of recurring income like 20 40 k or whatevr, I dont see the need to deprive some depressed soul surfing the net looking for some reassuring information from having to goto bed in peace.
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03-29 09:36 AM
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Vexir
06-15 12:07 AM
Quick someone tell me which one I should put in the poll, the carbon pod or the orasquare ?
texanguy
06-12 05:09 PM
in year 2007 EB-3 india got 17,000 green cards, still not enough to take care of the high demand. there are just too many people waiting, that's the fact and nobody can do anything about it...except for supporting IV for these three bills...
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