unitednations
02-04 12:39 PM
Mr Unitednation takes the advantages of ignorance (in immgration law) of most of the forum members and spreading wrong information in both web sites.
Of course he is very informative, however he is very biased and having wrong openion that EB3 India has stolen EB3_ROW number in previous years as he belongs to ROW. He wrongly assumes that till EB3-ROW becomes current EB2 & EB3-India will not see any movement. He thinks no one knows the rules, laws ect..and he is only one knows everything. The actual fact is most peoples have been doing research on retrogression like him last two years and not having enough time to reply his post. To fuel his openion DOS is violating the section 202 of INA and no one cares about this including IV core team.
If you want to know true color of Unitednation visit this site.
http://www.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=225197&page=3&pp=15&highlight=outlook
If you want to know how unused visanumbers suppose to work as per the law, visit this site.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2659&highlight=century
So please take a crack at how it works. Above posting is right from the horses mouth. As I challenged people if they think DOS/USCIS is breaking the law by going vertical instead of horizontal then they should contact them or sue them. However, no one has been willing to do this.
Of course he is very informative, however he is very biased and having wrong openion that EB3 India has stolen EB3_ROW number in previous years as he belongs to ROW. He wrongly assumes that till EB3-ROW becomes current EB2 & EB3-India will not see any movement. He thinks no one knows the rules, laws ect..and he is only one knows everything. The actual fact is most peoples have been doing research on retrogression like him last two years and not having enough time to reply his post. To fuel his openion DOS is violating the section 202 of INA and no one cares about this including IV core team.
If you want to know true color of Unitednation visit this site.
http://www.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=225197&page=3&pp=15&highlight=outlook
If you want to know how unused visanumbers suppose to work as per the law, visit this site.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2659&highlight=century
So please take a crack at how it works. Above posting is right from the horses mouth. As I challenged people if they think DOS/USCIS is breaking the law by going vertical instead of horizontal then they should contact them or sue them. However, no one has been willing to do this.
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srkamath
07-11 11:11 AM
paskal,
please close this thread.... it was started with an absurd post anyway....
Most of the discussion here has been depressing ....and purposeless.
please close this thread.... it was started with an absurd post anyway....
Most of the discussion here has been depressing ....and purposeless.
ThinkTwice
03-06 12:53 PM
I pledge $50 for this effort but I would also like to state that we should think before we move ahead, some items to consider are
- Some one mentioned that we should try to leverage the press to get coverage for the response.
- We should forward the response from USCIS to the president, first lady, ombudsman, Secretary of State etc
- Get an exact understanding of what information would benefit us most and make sure we ask specifically for that
- Try to negotiate a better rate with USCIC ;)
Peace
- Some one mentioned that we should try to leverage the press to get coverage for the response.
- We should forward the response from USCIS to the president, first lady, ombudsman, Secretary of State etc
- Get an exact understanding of what information would benefit us most and make sure we ask specifically for that
- Try to negotiate a better rate with USCIC ;)
Peace
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qasleuth
02-25 09:08 AM
ALLOW EVERYONE TO FILE I485 SHOULD BE OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.
You people already have filed 485 and have EAD. EAD gives you so much freedom . It is as good as a green card.
What about people who are less fortunate and cannot file II485. We need to allow everyone to be on the same page first and enjoy EAD freedom.
That should be our priority before any country limits or this thread action item
Please don't muck up this thread. Kate123/Jchan I think lead the effort of "Allowing everyone to file I485" but it ran into issues as it requires a change in law than an admin fix. No one is stopping you to pursue that option further.
You people already have filed 485 and have EAD. EAD gives you so much freedom . It is as good as a green card.
What about people who are less fortunate and cannot file II485. We need to allow everyone to be on the same page first and enjoy EAD freedom.
That should be our priority before any country limits or this thread action item
Please don't muck up this thread. Kate123/Jchan I think lead the effort of "Allowing everyone to file I485" but it ran into issues as it requires a change in law than an admin fix. No one is stopping you to pursue that option further.
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snathan
08-12 05:20 PM
EB3 Guys,
Take it easy... This is just for humour, to have fun at these times.
No green card for you. Just work well for 6 years, enjoy life in US, enjoy sports cars by renting, not by buying, rent a big house, have a lawn and garden in back yard, grow your own vegetables. Have nice vacations like Hawaii, Jamaican islands, Vegas, Porto Rico etc.,Have fun in life. Do not go for green card. After 6 years, get nice job in India,own apartment near to office and ask your parents to live with you. Take kids to school . Have fun with them. Try to become director, AVP,VP,SVP,CEO,CTO and President. Do not go for green card. After you become director, buy a single family home and mercedez or BMW and have fun. Retire by the time your kids become earners. Grow vegetables in back yard. Do gardening and have fun. Thats how life should be. Do not hope for green card. H A V E F U N.
Does it make any sense...in the name of humour you are just pissing every one here.
Take it easy... This is just for humour, to have fun at these times.
No green card for you. Just work well for 6 years, enjoy life in US, enjoy sports cars by renting, not by buying, rent a big house, have a lawn and garden in back yard, grow your own vegetables. Have nice vacations like Hawaii, Jamaican islands, Vegas, Porto Rico etc.,Have fun in life. Do not go for green card. After 6 years, get nice job in India,own apartment near to office and ask your parents to live with you. Take kids to school . Have fun with them. Try to become director, AVP,VP,SVP,CEO,CTO and President. Do not go for green card. After you become director, buy a single family home and mercedez or BMW and have fun. Retire by the time your kids become earners. Grow vegetables in back yard. Do gardening and have fun. Thats how life should be. Do not hope for green card. H A V E F U N.
Does it make any sense...in the name of humour you are just pissing every one here.
satishku_2000
07-20 05:44 PM
Hi,
this is my first post...
I've seen most of you guys are indians, I admire you for being so organized and brave, and also for getting skilled enough to be sucessfull anywhere.
I'm not in the IT business, I'm not indian, I don't have special skills nor advanced dregrees. I'm just a regular guy who has worked all his life to achieve what he got. Since my degree is a 3 years old, I did not qualify foe EB2 even being in a managerial position for over 10 years.
I was waiting for the opportunity to file my family's I485 and then my company was bought and I was laid off on jun 14th.
I've been 6 years in this country, I have 2 american born kids, I've paid a lot of taxes, I have a house mortgage, a car loan...
Now I'm out of status and worst of all, everything on the GC process is lost.
I don't think it's fair, I've never done anything illegal, but I'm not ready to leave the country. I need to sell my property, don't know what to do with the car, my wife is on her MBA thesis, I just can't leave.
I'm telling all this not because I want you to feel sorry, but to create awareness that it's NOT on your hands being legal or illegal. You're in others hands: your employer, USCIS, the adjudicator officer.
So don't judge others just because you have been lucky enough to maintain your status...
Good luck to you all in your I-485s
VZLAN, Ah! I can't return to my country since I am Venezuelan, and I don't plan to raise my kids under communism.
Exactly man Nothing is in ones hands .. Two identical applications going to two different officers can lead to two different conclusions ,
this is my first post...
I've seen most of you guys are indians, I admire you for being so organized and brave, and also for getting skilled enough to be sucessfull anywhere.
I'm not in the IT business, I'm not indian, I don't have special skills nor advanced dregrees. I'm just a regular guy who has worked all his life to achieve what he got. Since my degree is a 3 years old, I did not qualify foe EB2 even being in a managerial position for over 10 years.
I was waiting for the opportunity to file my family's I485 and then my company was bought and I was laid off on jun 14th.
I've been 6 years in this country, I have 2 american born kids, I've paid a lot of taxes, I have a house mortgage, a car loan...
Now I'm out of status and worst of all, everything on the GC process is lost.
I don't think it's fair, I've never done anything illegal, but I'm not ready to leave the country. I need to sell my property, don't know what to do with the car, my wife is on her MBA thesis, I just can't leave.
I'm telling all this not because I want you to feel sorry, but to create awareness that it's NOT on your hands being legal or illegal. You're in others hands: your employer, USCIS, the adjudicator officer.
So don't judge others just because you have been lucky enough to maintain your status...
Good luck to you all in your I-485s
VZLAN, Ah! I can't return to my country since I am Venezuelan, and I don't plan to raise my kids under communism.
Exactly man Nothing is in ones hands .. Two identical applications going to two different officers can lead to two different conclusions ,
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realizeit
02-25 11:04 AM
First of all let me thank all of you who responded to this thread positively or negatively. I have a humble request. Please make sure that the comments that you post in this thread are not finger pointers to anyone else in the community. Please provide your positive or negative comments about this idea. Also make sure that your comments are not cynical ones which will just put this idea into the dust bin. If you can't motivate, please do not discourage others from getting some motivation and giving motivation. Without positive energy and a conducive environment, we will not achieve anything. If you have high cynical opinion, please hold that with you - as it will help you as well - because by doing that, you are helping this community to work on an issue with positive energy. If there is some positive outcome of the effort by this community, you too can enjoy the fruit. So, my point is, your biggest help would be keeping quiet. Let�s have a constructive and productive brain storming.
Even after this brain-storming, if our conclusion is negative, we should not give up. We should continue to work on this and if this requires a legislative change, still this may be an easy one as it won�t add any new GC numbers to the existing quota. This just removes the UNCERTAINITY surrounds our life. What I meant was, there won�t be much ammunition that the protectionists and anti-immigrants can gather against this effort.
I can completely understand the user Ganguteli�s frustration. He has a very valid point too, with respect to applying for I-485 when dates are not current. As I quoted earlier �A journey of a thousand miles begins with a small step.�. So, we should continue this effort in small steps instead of a big bang method. In this current economic environment, if our proposal is too big, it could get ignored within no time. Administration will say that, we will do this along with Comprehensive Immigration reform or something like that. We may add a reasonable addition to this proposal to fix the problems of folks like Ganguteli. Something like, if your 140 is approved and 1 year has passed, the person must be able to apply for 485 irrespective of whether his country is retrogressed or not. I am not sure about the legality of all these. That�s where the importance of this community emerges. If we can work together, we can solve all our problems in small steps.
If IV and our community take this as a priority item to work on, I will provide $500.00 as an initial aid to this effort. I could offer more on the way.
An interesting idea to say the least. Out of box suggestion.
However, there are few things, from legal point of view, it needs to overcome. I will post my detailed comments this afternoon.
Once again, this is a great idea!
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Even after this brain-storming, if our conclusion is negative, we should not give up. We should continue to work on this and if this requires a legislative change, still this may be an easy one as it won�t add any new GC numbers to the existing quota. This just removes the UNCERTAINITY surrounds our life. What I meant was, there won�t be much ammunition that the protectionists and anti-immigrants can gather against this effort.
I can completely understand the user Ganguteli�s frustration. He has a very valid point too, with respect to applying for I-485 when dates are not current. As I quoted earlier �A journey of a thousand miles begins with a small step.�. So, we should continue this effort in small steps instead of a big bang method. In this current economic environment, if our proposal is too big, it could get ignored within no time. Administration will say that, we will do this along with Comprehensive Immigration reform or something like that. We may add a reasonable addition to this proposal to fix the problems of folks like Ganguteli. Something like, if your 140 is approved and 1 year has passed, the person must be able to apply for 485 irrespective of whether his country is retrogressed or not. I am not sure about the legality of all these. That�s where the importance of this community emerges. If we can work together, we can solve all our problems in small steps.
If IV and our community take this as a priority item to work on, I will provide $500.00 as an initial aid to this effort. I could offer more on the way.
An interesting idea to say the least. Out of box suggestion.
However, there are few things, from legal point of view, it needs to overcome. I will post my detailed comments this afternoon.
Once again, this is a great idea!
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sgorla
04-05 06:15 PM
This is my opinion for your questions.
Maybe,...
1. If USCIS get <= 20k on April 1 (sunday), 2 and 3, all US-MS petitions are guaranteed to be at least processed ??
Yes.
2. If UCSIS get > 20k on April 1 (sunday), 2 and 3, then i guess, all 20k+ numbers with receipt date including that date when USCIS officially announce H1B-US_MS cap reached, will be under random lotter??
Yes.
Maybe,...
1. If USCIS get <= 20k on April 1 (sunday), 2 and 3, all US-MS petitions are guaranteed to be at least processed ??
Yes.
2. If UCSIS get > 20k on April 1 (sunday), 2 and 3, then i guess, all 20k+ numbers with receipt date including that date when USCIS officially announce H1B-US_MS cap reached, will be under random lotter??
Yes.
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gc28262
03-09 10:23 AM
Guys,
I want your input on a very important issue. So far I haven't heard anything proper from IV Core. We achieved the pledge goal. This really shows everybody's passion to get the real data.
We have couple of options:
1. We deposit all the amount to IV's regular account. In that case quite a few guys have asked for guarantee that first $5000 out of this money will be spent specifically for this purpose.
2. We create a new paypal account, get all the donation in that acccount and one of us get the data from USCIS and share with everyone on IV thread itself.
Please let me know your opinion ASAP. This is very important and quick reply is necessary.
IMO both options are fine as long as we meet our objective.
I want your input on a very important issue. So far I haven't heard anything proper from IV Core. We achieved the pledge goal. This really shows everybody's passion to get the real data.
We have couple of options:
1. We deposit all the amount to IV's regular account. In that case quite a few guys have asked for guarantee that first $5000 out of this money will be spent specifically for this purpose.
2. We create a new paypal account, get all the donation in that acccount and one of us get the data from USCIS and share with everyone on IV thread itself.
Please let me know your opinion ASAP. This is very important and quick reply is necessary.
IMO both options are fine as long as we meet our objective.
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gctest
09-16 10:00 AM
You were obviously born stupid.
I am not really a great fan of your attitude towards people from India
Is India... go back...
Let us post your EB2 job online so that I can help find a US person to do it.
PM me.. OK?
I am not really a great fan of your attitude towards people from India
Is India... go back...
Let us post your EB2 job online so that I can help find a US person to do it.
PM me.. OK?
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snathan
08-12 05:20 PM
EB3 Guys,
Take it easy... This is just for humour, to have fun at these times.
No green card for you. Just work well for 6 years, enjoy life in US, enjoy sports cars by renting, not by buying, rent a big house, have a lawn and garden in back yard, grow your own vegetables. Have nice vacations like Hawaii, Jamaican islands, Vegas, Porto Rico etc.,Have fun in life. Do not go for green card. After 6 years, get nice job in India,own apartment near to office and ask your parents to live with you. Take kids to school . Have fun with them. Try to become director, AVP,VP,SVP,CEO,CTO and President. Do not go for green card. After you become director, buy a single family home and mercedez or BMW and have fun. Retire by the time your kids become earners. Grow vegetables in back yard. Do gardening and have fun. Thats how life should be. Do not hope for green card. H A V E F U N.
Does it make any sense...in the name of humour you are just pissing every one here.
Take it easy... This is just for humour, to have fun at these times.
No green card for you. Just work well for 6 years, enjoy life in US, enjoy sports cars by renting, not by buying, rent a big house, have a lawn and garden in back yard, grow your own vegetables. Have nice vacations like Hawaii, Jamaican islands, Vegas, Porto Rico etc.,Have fun in life. Do not go for green card. After 6 years, get nice job in India,own apartment near to office and ask your parents to live with you. Take kids to school . Have fun with them. Try to become director, AVP,VP,SVP,CEO,CTO and President. Do not go for green card. After you become director, buy a single family home and mercedez or BMW and have fun. Retire by the time your kids become earners. Grow vegetables in back yard. Do gardening and have fun. Thats how life should be. Do not hope for green card. H A V E F U N.
Does it make any sense...in the name of humour you are just pissing every one here.
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fatjoe
08-26 01:08 PM
Yes, they go by the receipt date, which appears on your USCIS online status - they are suppose to go by the date delivered to mail room / receipt date printed on your 797
The Receipt date is the date when they actually receive our case in a Service Center. Notice date is when it got entered into the system. I-485 Notice shows both the RD and ND. RD should be August 17 for most of us, whose cases were transferred to various Service Centers. Online status shows the ND. The only confusion here is what do they go by(may be USCIS it self not sure how to prioritize - whether on ND or RD).
Strictly speaking, if they go by ND and if the ND is after Aug-17 we may not be eligible for GC, as our(July/Aug 07 batch) cut-off dates is august-17-2007. This is what I was told by DAO when I attended the interview at the local USCIS office.
The Receipt date is the date when they actually receive our case in a Service Center. Notice date is when it got entered into the system. I-485 Notice shows both the RD and ND. RD should be August 17 for most of us, whose cases were transferred to various Service Centers. Online status shows the ND. The only confusion here is what do they go by(may be USCIS it self not sure how to prioritize - whether on ND or RD).
Strictly speaking, if they go by ND and if the ND is after Aug-17 we may not be eligible for GC, as our(July/Aug 07 batch) cut-off dates is august-17-2007. This is what I was told by DAO when I attended the interview at the local USCIS office.
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07-08 10:39 AM
Earlier I did not send and clicked NO to the poll. But how I have sent after IV supported it.
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07-10 10:37 PM
I know I will get red dots for this since you are super moderator, but again IV is a free speech based org, I am a Masters (advanced education) from a very prestigious US university with full scholarship with 4.0 GPA and in EB3 employment category. Eduation and EB catergory are two different things, one would think that would be clear by now.
it goes deeper than that. first let me point out that this is philosophical- you argument is not about law, it's about a point of view.
so if i ask you why EB2 filers should spend extra years getting educated and never getting this all important magic "PD" and then get in line behind someone who got a job the day they entered the country- and got a PD soon enough- what would you say?
ask me. it took me 11 years to get a PD. why? for 7 of those years i was getting my advanced education. so why should i suffer behind the 3 year Indian degree person (against my 7 years there as well) who came in 5 years after me and filed right away?
there are reasons why the EB priorities were set up. by simply extending your logic EB1 should also wait for a turn and not have priority. what's good for the goose....
having said that, it is absolutely insane to ask people to wait indefinitely and we must do something about it.
today the EB3 folks (and I have nothing against them, their waits are insane- and it's absolutely not right) are porting to EB2 with those bachelors degrees and 5 years experience. and just because they could APPLY for a GC earlier and all their years get counted in the PD, they keep lining up ahead of me. why do all my years count for NOTHING?
please spare us "fortunate" EB2s a thought too. think of when in life our careers are finally freed from waiting for a GC.
and now please concentrate on ways to end retrogression and stop the EB2 vs EB3 crap. we all have our problems.
it goes deeper than that. first let me point out that this is philosophical- you argument is not about law, it's about a point of view.
so if i ask you why EB2 filers should spend extra years getting educated and never getting this all important magic "PD" and then get in line behind someone who got a job the day they entered the country- and got a PD soon enough- what would you say?
ask me. it took me 11 years to get a PD. why? for 7 of those years i was getting my advanced education. so why should i suffer behind the 3 year Indian degree person (against my 7 years there as well) who came in 5 years after me and filed right away?
there are reasons why the EB priorities were set up. by simply extending your logic EB1 should also wait for a turn and not have priority. what's good for the goose....
having said that, it is absolutely insane to ask people to wait indefinitely and we must do something about it.
today the EB3 folks (and I have nothing against them, their waits are insane- and it's absolutely not right) are porting to EB2 with those bachelors degrees and 5 years experience. and just because they could APPLY for a GC earlier and all their years get counted in the PD, they keep lining up ahead of me. why do all my years count for NOTHING?
please spare us "fortunate" EB2s a thought too. think of when in life our careers are finally freed from waiting for a GC.
and now please concentrate on ways to end retrogression and stop the EB2 vs EB3 crap. we all have our problems.
looivy
02-26 03:08 PM
Realizeit....great idea.
Can IV admins, Realizeit and team, plese come up with an action plan from various replies on this thread and post it on IV's front page so that we can start working on it and contributing towards it?
Grazie.
Can IV admins, Realizeit and team, plese come up with an action plan from various replies on this thread and post it on IV's front page so that we can start working on it and contributing towards it?
Grazie.
WeldonSprings
08-21 06:18 PM
Also, if what you are saying is correct- then DOS will immediately post a revised September 2008 bulletin to show India/China 'U'. So, that fresh I-485 filers won't be able to file. We have not seen such action on the part of DOS.
For example- Last year when they made July VB Unavailable on July 2, 2007; after adjudicating 25000 applicationsover the Jun. 30- Jul. 01 weekend , they immediately made an announcement on July 02, so no fresh I-485 applicants can file. The rest is history...
You said that you are from the Midwest, but your profile says that you send your application to Texas. How is that possible, All midwest I-485 applications must have gone to Nebraska Service Center.
"I am in Midwest and not all the USCIS/ASC offices treat as bad, as these guys may not have that many applicants coming to the office, like int Northeast or California."
For example- Last year when they made July VB Unavailable on July 2, 2007; after adjudicating 25000 applicationsover the Jun. 30- Jul. 01 weekend , they immediately made an announcement on July 02, so no fresh I-485 applicants can file. The rest is history...
You said that you are from the Midwest, but your profile says that you send your application to Texas. How is that possible, All midwest I-485 applications must have gone to Nebraska Service Center.
"I am in Midwest and not all the USCIS/ASC offices treat as bad, as these guys may not have that many applicants coming to the office, like int Northeast or California."
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